FP8 weight caching shows no speedup (sometimes slowdown) and causes training curve differences under Float8BlockScaling
Hi,
We are testing FP8 weight caching in Transformer Engine by passing `is_first_microbatch=True/False` during gradient accumulation. We are using the `Float8BlockScaling` recipe and we get two unexpected behaviors:
- Enabling FP8 weight caching does not improve training throughput in our setup. In some runs it even makes training slower.
- Enabling FP8 weight caching changes the training curve at some steps. Under `Float8BlockScaling`, we expected the runs with and without caching to be numerically identical, or at least fully aligned in practice.
For `Float8BlockScaling`, our understanding from the implementation is that quantization is blockwise and does not rely on delayed `amax_history` state like `DelayedScaling`.
Because of that, we expected:
- FP8 weight caching to provide some speedup when the same frozen weights are reused across microbatches.
- Runs with and without caching to remain fully aligned under `Float8BlockScaling`, since the weights are unchanged within a gradient accumulation cycle.
Questions:
- Is FP8 weight caching expected to provide a measurable speedup under Float8BlockScaling?
Is there any known case where FP8 weight caching can be neutral or even slower with Float8BlockScaling?
- Under Float8BlockScaling, should runs with and without FP8 weight caching be bitwise identical, or at least numerically aligned step by step?
- If differences are expected, what is the source of the difference for Float8BlockScaling, given that it does not appear to use delayed amax_history state?
[The current documentation warning](https://docs.nvidia.com/deeplearning/transformer-engine/user-guide/examples/advanced_optimizations.html#FP8-weight-caching) about FP8 weight caching causing non-bitwise-identical outputs seems understandable for delayed-scaling recipes, but we are unsure whether that warning is also intended to apply to Float8BlockScaling.
Thank you for any info or advice in advance!
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