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By llimllib
Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 04:45:20 PM EST

What a win from the French side! They won against England 2-1 with 2 goals in stoppage time. I wish it was on TV in the USA so I could have watched Zidane's goal...thank god the bbc put it on the net.
Inside, why I hate the English footballers enough to root for the French.

Why do I hate English football side? Because in the last world cup, UK commentators were so derisive and insulting towards a US team that surpassed England's performance by a mile. Those bastards deserve to have their hearts broken like this.
Also, does anyone know a site that will stream the highlights of the game? I'll search for it later.
Anyway, off to play some ultimate.

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Go France! | 33 comments (33 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Please be upstanding (none / 0) (#29)
by GenerationY on Mon Jun 14th, 2004 at 02:12:26 PM EST

for the National Anthem. (You shouldn't be so hard on us. Its not lack we haven't suffered you know...sob)

Everyone seems to know the score
They've seen it all before
They just know
They're so sure

That England's gonna
Throw it away
Gonna blow it away
But I know they can play
Cos' I remember

Three lions on the shirt
Jules Rimet still gleaming
30 Years of hurt
Never stoppped me dreaming

So many jokes, so many jeers
But all those oh so nears
Wear you down
Through the years

But I still see that
Tackle by Moore
And when Lineker scored
Bobby belting the ball
And Nobby dancing

Three lions on a shirt
Jules rimet still gleaming
30 Years of hurt
Never stopped me dreaming

I know that was then
But it could be again

I think it comes to something when this is still six or so years on recognised as the definitive England supporters song.

I'm telling you, its a sick, sick nation that turned the word liberal into an expletive Iain Banks - Dead Air

eh (none / 0) (#30)
by llimllib on Mon Jun 14th, 2004 at 03:08:57 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

It's not lack of suffering that makes me hard on UK football, it's how you treated us when those few US fans finally got some victories to be proud of. I can't imagine that the French were any nicer, or less arrogant (hah), but I can't read their language, so they got away with it.

Peace.
[ Parent ]

Thing is though (none / 1) (#31)
by GenerationY on Mon Jun 14th, 2004 at 03:23:56 PM EST

I have no idea which commentators you can be talking about. Both the Beeb and ITV for that matter were both effusive in their praise for the American squad at least when I was watching.

I'm telling you, its a sick, sick nation that turned the word liberal into an expletive Iain Banks - Dead Air
[ Parent ]

Also, I should say (none / 0) (#33)
by llimllib on Mon Jun 14th, 2004 at 04:07:53 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

I should also say that I didn't get to watch the games on TV, so I couldn't hear those announcers praising the US, and I read most of the negative articles because they were pointed to in an article specifically about English commentators bashing the US. Thus, my opinion is highly biased. Oh well, such is life.

Peace.
[ Parent ]

I can't remember, to tell the truth (none / 0) (#32)
by llimllib on Mon Jun 14th, 2004 at 04:06:21 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

It was some newspaper columnists whose columns were posted to the web. I read about three of them, and I remember that there were more in the article.

Nothing against English people personally, it just makes me want to root against the football team.

Peace.
[ Parent ]

Why I won't support the US (none / 0) (#25)
by nebbish on Mon Jun 14th, 2004 at 06:35:33 AM EST
(nebbish at gmail dot com) http://wetfloor.co.uk

The US isn't a footballing nation, and when it comes down to it they don't really care. Wins are wasted on them.

--
It puts the lotion in the basket

uh huh (none / 1) (#26)
by llimllib on Mon Jun 14th, 2004 at 09:38:31 AM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

We are not crazy as a footballing country, on this you are correct. However, the whole nation doesn't care about wins in any one sport. Basketball? most of the country doesn't care. NFL football? Most of the country watches the final for the advertisements, and doesn't care. When it comes down to it, for every sport, some of us care and some don't.

Peace.
[ Parent ]

Uhhh... (none / 1) (#16)
by SPYvSPY on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 09:58:01 PM EST

...why is this a surprise? Isn't the France team basically Arsenal in different colors?
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Isn't anyone going to congratulate me?! (none / 2) (#28)
by SPYvSPY on Mon Jun 14th, 2004 at 01:38:25 PM EST

I'm an American, and I know what Arsenal is. And I even knew that they share players with France! Where's my kudos?!
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ermmm 2 goals in two minutes of injury time? (none / 1) (#22)
by muyuubyou on Mon Jun 14th, 2004 at 01:37:14 AM EST
(muyuubyou76 at yahoo_dot_com)

I don't know about you, but I found the game to be completely unfair. It was even at times, but France was never able to get past England's defense.

A completely absurd foul in a very dangerous position (Zidane loves that position) and then a retarded pass from Steven Gerrard to Thierry Henry the very next minute... plus Beckham missed a P.K.

It was a surprise the way it happened.

I wouldn't count England out anyway. Croatia and Switzerland looked HORRIBLE in the other match of the group. Shouldn't be a problem to beat them Both and expect France to do the same.

On the other hand, Portugal is pretty fucked up. Russia is not an easy match and they will have a hard time with Spain. I think they depend on Greece not winning a second match.

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it's pretty much not a surprise (none / 0) (#21)
by llimllib on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 11:39:19 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

France is one of, if not the, best teams in the world, so losing to them is not a huge surprise. However, the cool thing is that England was winning until there were 3 minutes left in the game. In those three minutes, England let France not only tie the game, but take the lead and win.

Peace.
[ Parent ]

they are? (none / 1) (#23)
by Delirium on Mon Jun 14th, 2004 at 04:39:45 AM EST
(delirium-k5@rufus.d2g.com)

I seem to recall in the last World Cup, not only did France lose all three games and get eliminated in the opening round, but they lost all three games without scoring a single goal.

Read my diary.
[ Parent ]

you remember correctly (none / 0) (#27)
by llimllib on Mon Jun 14th, 2004 at 09:40:38 AM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

Losing 3 games in the world cup does not imply that a team is not of the highest caliber. It does imply that they imploded, that they had poor strategy, and that they had poor coaching, but the French team is certainly one of the best in the world.

Peace.
[ Parent ]

what a match (none / 2) (#12)
by Timo Laine on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 06:17:10 PM EST
http://www.timoroso.com/

This was essentially boring soccer most of the time, with only three highlights: England's goal, the save from Beckham's penalty by Barthez and Zidane's goal from the freekick. The single big mistake in the game was the unbelievable blunder by the Gerrard-James duo that resulted in the penalty for France.

I don't think either team deserved to win this one, but England lost only because of their own mistakes. Beckham had the chance to clinch the match with his penalty. England couldn't stop Zidane's brilliant freekick, though, but there is no reason they couldn't have secured a draw.

I was pretty neutral about the match myself. But I don't like ultra-defensive tactics, even when they are effective, as Eriksson's tactics were (at least initially). I don't like bad finishing either, and I expected more from Henry and Trezeguet. But I am still quite happy that even if most of the match was pretty boring, at least there was drama. It reminded me a bit of the Champions League final with Bayern Munich and Manchester United and maybe also of the Euro 2000 final. This was not a classic match, but I think it's still an example of why it is so easy to be passionate about the sport. Your squad can work like a clockwork for 99% of the match, and you can still lose. That is utterly, totally and without question unfair, and it is also one of the reasons why this is more than a sport, and perhaps more than life itself for many people.

OK I'm biased (none / 3) (#14)
by CtrlBR on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 06:38:26 PM EST

But France deserved to win, something like 70% of the match happened in England's half of the field and this alone proves that France dominated head and shoulders the match... How many time did Owen get the ball again?

On the other side since most of the guys from the two sides plays in something like 4 clubs (Arsenal, MU, Chelsea and Real Madrid) it was really fun to see them playing tricks on their teammates...

If no-one thinks you're a freedom fighter than you're probably not a terrorist.
-- Gully Foyle

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not necessarily (none / 2) (#15)
by Timo Laine on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 06:55:10 PM EST
http://www.timoroso.com/

But France deserved to win, something like 70% of the match happened in England's half of the field and this alone proves that France dominated head and shoulders the match... How many time did Owen get the ball again?

I think that's just strategy. Although France controlled the ball, Eriksson was in total control of the match until the dramatic end. Maybe he knows his catenaccio from his time in Lazio.

[ Parent ]

True (none / 1) (#24)
by GenerationY on Mon Jun 14th, 2004 at 04:52:42 AM EST

Indeed, England's standard mistakes are (a) defending far too deep; (b) pointless long balls to forwards of diminutive stature and (c) running around like headless chickens.

In the whole we kept those tendencies in check reasonably well although obviously there was a lot of (c) by the end of the game.

I also think we may be overlooking the fact that Owen as a marked man in every sense of the word was at least tying up defenders through his off the ball play. Zidane was quiet through much of the game but had a similarly inhibitory effect on Gary Neville's relatively recent (but welcome) tendency to support of attack down the right wing.

I'm telling you, its a sick, sick nation that turned the word liberal into an expletive Iain Banks - Dead Air
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Watch real football, queer (1.36 / 11) (#9)
by Amsterdam Vallon on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 05:54:16 PM EST

NFL.com, bitch.
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I like the NFL (none / 1) (#17)
by llimllib on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 10:11:25 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

I'm pretty much a competition junkie.

Peace.
[ Parent ]

ror such a ukcentric troll! (1.25 / 4) (#7)
by noogie on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 05:45:15 PM EST
(noogie.brownATgmail.com)

I'm smarter than the average bear.

but I don't live in the UK! (none / 1) (#18)
by llimllib on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 10:12:41 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

And this is still only a semi-troll.

Peace.
[ Parent ]

Which (1.66 / 6) (#5)
by idiot boy on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 05:00:15 PM EST

Commentators did you listen to?

Most of 'em are tossers but BBC R5's are about the fairest (and best) in the world.

Incidentally, us lucky English are all gutted so you know what? Fuck you.

Just for that, I'm gonna make sure that we take the ball home from Iraq. Lets see you play that game without a fucking ball.

--
Science is a way of trying not to fool yourself

listened to BBC R5 (none / 0) (#19)
by llimllib on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 10:15:49 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

and I must say that it was a pleasurable experience. The announters were quite fantastic, and as fair as they realistically could be in such a football crazy country.

As for you guys being gutted, well, stop being such dicks when the US wins a couple of games, and maybe I'll start to empathize with you.

Peace.
[ Parent ]

don't be silly (3.00 / 4) (#11)
by j1mmy on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 06:16:53 PM EST
(pray@prayforgeorgewbush.com)

how can you take the ball home? we've been looking for the ball since winter of 2003. you'll have to fight rummy for it if he finds it first.

Life in Canada: He kept butchering my ass.
Life in Germany: Germany is for coprophilia.

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How dare you (2.33 / 6) (#4)
by Hide Teh Hamster on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 04:59:50 PM EST
(ROR.creative_hack@hotmail.com.ROR) http://www.wired.com/news/images/0,2334,56409-5520,00.html

speak such ill of our brothers in the United Kingdom. Sure we have our differences: they had major interest in curtailing our national sovreignity on two distinct occasions, and owe us for saving them from annihilation in not one, but two wars! Sure, they insult our superior and more descriptive American English and our superior, more efficient, more capitalist system, but that's no reason to fucking root for the God damn _french degenerate sub-humans. May God have mercy on your soul.

Stare the Deep End right in its face.

Gutted (none / 2) (#3)
by GenerationY on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 04:55:26 PM EST

I'm just gutted, Brian.

I'm telling you, its a sick, sick nation that turned the word liberal into an expletive Iain Banks - Dead Air

my name's bill (none / 0) (#20)
by llimllib on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 10:16:50 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

__textacious__

Peace.
[ Parent ]

Yeah well (1.25 / 4) (#1)
by Dr Phil on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 04:51:47 PM EST
http://www.drphil.com/

That's what happens when you believe it's your god-given duty to bomb the rest of the free world.

*** ATTENTION *** Rusty has disabled my account for anti-Jewish views. What a fucking hypocrite.

Oi, fair play but (none / 1) (#6)
by Tau on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 05:21:54 PM EST

WHOSE idea was that, again? Besides, most of us don't support our idiot in charge any more than you support yours :]

---
WHEN THE REVOLUTION COMES WE WILL MAKE SAUSAGES OUT OF YOUR FUCKING ENTRAILS - TRASG0
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Not that America (none / 2) (#2)
by Dr Phil on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 04:52:22 PM EST
http://www.drphil.com/

is part of the free world any more.

*** ATTENTION *** Rusty has disabled my account for anti-Jewish views. What a fucking hypocrite.
[ Parent ]

Out of curiousity... (none / 2) (#8)
by skyknight on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 05:49:27 PM EST

what is your definition of free, and which parts of the world do you deem to fit it?

_{A One Act Play}

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I'm starting to wonder that myself (none / 2) (#10)
by Dr Phil on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 05:58:40 PM EST
http://www.drphil.com/

What these days with the oppressive claws of multinational corporations combined with the US's self-serving international agenda allowing it to push use its influence in places where frankly it has no right to be. This is the cruel legacy of capitalism and something we're all going to be spending a lot of time getting out of in the near future, mark my words.

*** ATTENTION *** Rusty has disabled my account for anti-Jewish views. What a fucking hypocrite.
[ Parent ]

As opposed to... (none / 1) (#13)
by skyknight on Sun Jun 13th, 2004 at 06:30:58 PM EST

other nations whose international agendas are not self serving? Are we to believe that France and Russia were against the war in Iraq solely on humanitarian grounds, as opposed to their huge financial interests in Iraqi oil and weapons sales debts? The cruel legacy of capitalism... As opposed to the magnanimous history of communism? Soviet and Chinese experiments with communism killed tens of millions of peasants, a toll far exceeding the number of Jews who were snuffed out by the Holocaust...

Your problem is not that you are too cynical... Rather, you are only half as cynical as you need to be. What you bemoan is not anything uniquely American, but rather something that is all too human, as thousands of years worth of history has shown.

_{A One Act Play}

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