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By llimllib
Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 11:25:39 AM EST

So, having installed Oracle on my windows partition, I've naturally been in there for a while. I have cygwin installed, which helps me out, but I really miss my tabbed terminal window. Does anyone know if there's a tabbed terminal for windows, or even a terminal replacement? Cygwin is a bash shell, but it still runs in the windows terminal emulator, which is a piece of shit. Can there seriously be 27 terminal emulators for linux and only one for windows?
Could I get middle-mouse button copying in Windows? is that possible?
Oracle questions inside. Unrelated poll.

Is there a SQL client for oracle that doesn't suck? The sql*plus program sucks, and the sql*plus worksheet sucks a little bit less, but they are both far less satisfactory than, say, the mysql command line client. I found one program to replace the oracle shell, but couldn't get it to compile for cygwin, and I don't want to download the gig and a half database to install on my linux partition (which is b0rked right now anyway, damn X).
Also, is there an equivalent to mysqldump for oracle? That program dumps your current db to a file full of sql commands that you can execute. Is it a simple pl/sql thing? Is there some gui whizbang that'll do it for me? Does oracle not want me to be able to do it because I could then switch my data to another database?
Is it just me, or is oracle designed strictly for meatheads using GUIs?
And, a final question, does the python shell on windows not have command history, or does my python just not work?

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Lots of Geek Questions | 13 comments (13 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Toad Oracle client (5.00 / 1) (#9)
by skotolux on Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 01:36:00 PM EST

www.toadsoft.com

hrmm.... (5.00 / 1) (#8)
by rmg on Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 12:07:12 PM EST
(the.notorious.rmg@gmail.com) aim:dashbrdgrl45

why don't you just get the source for gnome-term and compile it? can't you get gnome libs for cygwin?

also, i seem to remember three button mouse emulation/copying .... of course, i don't do windows at all, so i guess that was a few years ago and my memory may be failing me.

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it might happen (none / 0) (#12)
by llimllib on Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 07:18:00 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

I may be able to do that, but it would probably mean serious changing of the makefiles, and I don't feel like doing that.

Peace.
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it's been a while (none / 0) (#4)
by miker2 on Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 12:02:12 PM EST

But in Oracle, there's a command called sqlldr, sql loader, which allows import, and I think export of data.

In my experiences, every oracle DBA, myself included, has shunned the gui tools in favor of the 'ol command line. This way it forces you to learn the tool, not just the mouse clicks.

oh, and (none / 0) (#7)
by llimllib on Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 12:03:22 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

thanks for the sqlldr tip. I'll check it out.

Peace.
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ok (none / 0) (#6)
by llimllib on Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 12:03:03 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

but I haven't found good command line tools for oracle like there are for mysql. I've been looking, because that's what I'm used to.

Peace.
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I think it can be done (5.00 / 1) (#3)
by kardis314 on Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 11:55:56 AM EST

if you use third party software. You could record ctrl-c as a macro and map it to the middle mouse button... unless you mean copy and paste on the same button? anyways, here's a link to some freeware macro software:

http://www.newfreeware.com/utils/mouse-keyboard/0-3.html

cool (none / 0) (#5)
by llimllib on Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 12:02:21 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

I'll check out what you linked. I did just install rxvt for cygwin and find that I could middle-click paste inside the terminal window, but not from outside. From the outside, you need to copy then middle-click, but it's an improvement.

Peace.
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Middle mouse copying (5.00 / 1) (#1)
by Canthros on Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 11:33:47 AM EST
http://www.punchdrunkmonkeyman.com

Doubtful. Depending on your mouse drivers, however, you may be able to set up the middle mouse button to do one of cut, copy or paste.

I'm not sure if a Windows application could be written which would automatically toss the most recent selection into the clipboard.

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Right button paste (5.00 / 1) (#10)
by vnsnes on Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 02:05:04 PM EST
(vnsnes at y!)

I'm not sure what makes it work on my install of Windows 2k + cygwin, but here's how my pastes work in a "cmd" and "bash" windows:

select with left mouse button

click the right mouse button to copy

click the right mouse button to paste

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Not the same thing. (none / 0) (#13)
by Canthros on Sat Sep 27th, 2003 at 12:16:34 AM EST
http://www.punchdrunkmonkeyman.com

Unless you can do it in every application. I can use X-like middle mouse button copy and paste just fine in, say, GNU EMACS under windows.

But not anyplace else that I've noticed or bothered to worry overmuch about.

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parent is correct (5.00 / 1) (#11)
by fishling on Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 06:35:12 PM EST

you may need to right-click on the shell titlebar, open up the properties, and put a check by the ol' quickedit box for it to work. fwiw, i also have the insert box checked.

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my wager (none / 0) (#2)
by llimllib on Fri Sep 26th, 2003 at 11:35:36 AM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

I'd bet that it could be made, but that it would be a real bitch. All kinds of API stuff, ugly win32 hacks and such. If litestep and other crazy shell stuff can be done, I bet this could be done too.

Peace.
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