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Do You Have Foreskin? (Diaries)

By llimllib
Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 03:37:24 PM EST

Do you have strong feelings about it in any way? And, if you're a girl, what are your opinions on foreskin?

Just curious.

I do.

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foreskin:

I have it 35%

I don't 53%

I'm a girl and I prefer foreskin 2%

I'm a girl and I don't care either way 2%

I'm a girl and I prefer circumcised 1%

Dude, you are sick. 4%

Votes: 71
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Do You Have Foreskin? | 27 comments (27 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

What about my aftskin? (5.00 / 1) (#21)
by MicroGlyphics on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 05:34:06 PM EST
http://www.microglyphics.com

What's in a name?

"Dreams are private myths; myths are public dreams." - Joseph Campbell

Aah, the foreskin. (5.00 / 2) (#20)
by sjbrodwall on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 05:23:45 PM EST
(kuro5hin dot 5 dot sjb at recursor dot net)

Not sure how many women there are who frequent this site, so I'll throw in my 2�. As for intercourse, foreskins don't make too much of a difference from the woman's point of view since the foreskin usually retracts completely when the penis is erect. As for oral sex, foreskins can be a problem if the man isn't obsessively hygienic, at least if you're into spontaneous oral sex. They certainly have a nice texture, however. :) Also, the frenulum is usually more sensitive on a man who is not circumcised. With regard to handjobs, they are a plus, since the skin can protect the sensitive glans from overstimulation in the absence of a lubricant. Generally it's going to be a positive thing to have an extra sensitive bit of stuff to play with, isn't it?

If I decide to reproduce, I'm definitely not going to circumcise the kid (male or female!). I'm very much against the surgical alteration of the human body for societal reasons. Plus, it's probably easier for a child if his equipment looks the same as his father's.

-- Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time. ~T. S. Elliot

I have strong feelings. (5.00 / 1) (#16)
by silk on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 05:05:17 PM EST

I was cut as a child. I have wished many times for an intact penis, but it is impossible. As a result of this ridiculous procedure, I am at a greater risk for erectile disfunction. Furthermore, my glans has become keratinized due to rubbing on my clothes and I have thus lost much sensitivity.
Parents, please leave your childrens' penises alone.

I'm kosher (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by J T MacLeod on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 04:39:45 PM EST
(joshua@SPAMMENOT.stalo.com)

Assuming I have a son someday in the future (and my wife agrees), my son will be, too, but NOT in the hospital the day after he's born.

I'm doing it on the Hebrew time period, by a Hebrew experienced with the scalpel. (Not that I'm Hebrew or converted to Judaism. I'm a Christian, and have my own reasons for desiring to continue the tradition.)

At that point in time, performed that way, it is MUCH less traumatic for the child. So I understand, at least. The way it's done by doctor's now isn't admirable in the least.

foreskin? (5.00 / 1) (#13)
by webwench on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 04:35:30 PM EST

Never tried one, actually. I don't really have any moral objections to having one, or being associated with on, though.

I have a foreskin (4.50 / 2) (#11)
by Stick on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 04:28:35 PM EST
(stick@itupyourbum.com) http://itupyourbum.com

I keep it in a jar.

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Bonus points if it's not yours. [n/t] (5.00 / 1) (#18)
by it certainly is on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 05:15:31 PM EST
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Of course it's not mine (none / 0) (#19)
by Stick on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 05:21:53 PM EST
(stick@itupyourbum.com) http://itupyourbum.com

What do you take me for, fluffy grue or something?

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I think there was an article about this (5.00 / 1) (#5)
by curien on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 03:56:10 PM EST
(sebasttj@gmail.com)

Ah, here we go! Thanks so much for the search engine, Rusty et al.

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All doctors do is support weak genes. Might as well be communists. -- sigwinch

forgot about that (none / 0) (#6)
by llimllib on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 03:59:09 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

I even read that article too. Was just a question that occurred to me while I was peeing.

Peace.
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Circumcision (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by UltraNurd on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 03:47:44 PM EST
(put-together-the-username@and-the-domain-name) http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nward/nurd.php

It's a choice that's up to the parents. At least I certainly hope that the procedure is performed at an age where the little guy can't remember the trauma. I really can't imagine an adult male getting a circumcision, although it certainly would demonstrate your zeal when it comes to a religious conversion. I seriously doubt that you would have it done for any other reason.

According to my dad's Male Body Manual (a gag gift he received a couple of birthdays ago), there are several "uncircumcision" options available for men whose parent(s) had them circumcised as a child. They vary from some sort of graft surgery to hanging weights from the leftover skin and slowly stretching it into a new foreskin. Neither procedure will return functionality to the lubricant-producing glands that are normally found at the base of the foreskin.

I don't know why I know so much about this...

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NOT up to the parents (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by silk on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 05:01:35 PM EST

Circumcision is no more up to the parents than infibulation or cliterodectomy. It is a violation of the child's right to not have invasive, possibly harmful medical procedures performed without his or her adult consent.

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What are the statistics? (5.00 / 1) (#17)
by UltraNurd on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 05:11:25 PM EST
(put-together-the-username@and-the-domain-name) http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nward/nurd.php

I know that a circumcision can go horribly wrong, and that the answer is usually a surgery which reforms the external genitalia so they look female. How likely is this to happen? Is that solution the only option? Being intersexed (a term you can only pick up at a crazy liberal place like Swarthmore) like that must really screw you up when you hit puberty and you're not producing the right hormones.

As much as I want to avoid feeding your troll, I do not think my parents did anything wrong when they had me circumcised. I don't know it to be any other way, so it's kind of hard to see the other side of this argument. I would probably have my male children circumcised out of tradition. It's hard to imagine that ancient Hebrews performed this with a sharp rock. ::shudder::

Finally, circumcision is significantly different from a cliterodectomy, which is sometimes referred to as "female circumcision". For one thing, except in a few very rare cases, circumcision does not remove sensation. A foreskin really is just a flap of skin, as opposed to a very important nerve cluster. Circumcision is not genital mutilation.

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"Your Mint Mountain Dew idea is hideous and wrong."
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Not a troll (4.00 / 1) (#27)
by silk on Thu Jul 31st, 2003 at 04:24:36 PM EST

Sorry I've been so long replying to this. I did not intend my comment to be a troll.
It doesn't particularly matter what the rate of complications are for circumcision, as it is not a necessary surgery. Any risk of complications is greater than the non-risk if the surgery is not performed.
And finally, my comparison to cliterodectomies and infibulation was not meant to say that circumcision and those procedures are equivalent. They are indeed different, but this difference is one of degree rather than kind. Both remove sexual stimulation to greater or lesser degrees, both are performed without the consent of the person that they are being performed upon, and both have no good medical reason and are performed only out of adherence to tradition.
Finally, you are misinformed as to the functions of the prepuce. It is not "just a flap of skin." It performs a few important roles. The first is protection of the glans. In a normal penis, the glans is similar to the skin on the inside of your mouth. It remains moist and does not rub on clothes. When the prepuce is removed, the glans rubs on clothing and becomes irritated until a layer of keratinized skin forms on top of it, protecting it from abrasion and blocking some sensation. The second role of the prepuce is erotic. The prepuce contains a great deal of nerve endings. Further, men with intact penises report that they get a great deal of erotic stimulation from the rubbing of the prepuce on the glans during masturbation or intercourse. Speaking personally, I know that the small amount of skin that remains from my inner foreskin is more sensitive than the rest of the skin on my penis, with the possible exception of the glans. Everything from the scar to the corona is VERY sensitive, while I receive much less pleasure from stimulation of the bottom of the shaft.
I'm sorry that I sounded trollish and that I took so long to reply, I've been neglecting k5 lately.

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I remember seeing on the CBC... (4.50 / 2) (#26)
by JahToasted on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 11:23:35 PM EST
(toastafari at yahoo dot com)

There was one case in Alberta, where it was botched and they (psychologists) figured that if they never told the kid that he was born a boy, he'd never know. He was indeed screwed up... no matter how much they told him he was a girl it didn't make a difference. He later successfully sued the doctors. Someone wrote a book about it, but I can't remember what it was called.
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Circumcision does remove sensation (5.00 / 1) (#22)
by damiam on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 05:58:59 PM EST

First of all, the foreskin does have some sensitivity. Also, the presence of the foreskin keeps the glans from becoming desensitized by constantly rubbing against underwear, etc. It also makes it much more pleasent to masturb^H^H^Hrecieve a handjob without lube, because the skin slides up and down.

I wouldn't say that circumcision is anywhere near as bad as a cliterodectomy, but most people circumcised as adults do say they lose sensation. Since there are really no good reasons to be circumcised (unless there's a medical problem), I think it shouldn't be the parent's choice - if a kid wants to be circumcised, they should have that choice.
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I'll have to take your word for it (5.00 / 1) (#23)
by UltraNurd on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 06:56:08 PM EST
(put-together-the-username@and-the-domain-name) http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nward/nurd.php

Obviously, the foreskin has a function, otherwise it wouldn't be there in the first place.

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"Your Mint Mountain Dew idea is hideous and wrong."
-Hide The Hamster
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Appendix? (n/t) (5.00 / 1) (#24)
by Politburo on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 07:07:43 PM EST

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Whoops (5.00 / 1) (#25)
by UltraNurd on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 07:26:51 PM EST
(put-together-the-username@and-the-domain-name) http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nward/nurd.php

I meant had a function...

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"Your Mint Mountain Dew idea is hideous and wrong."
-Hide The Hamster
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penis-weights (4.00 / 2) (#4)
by llimllib on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 03:55:26 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

I heard about that making-foreskin-by-hanging-weights-off-the-penis maneuver, and man would that be dedication.

On a side note, where do they get penis-weights? Isn't that a funny word? I think so.

Peace.
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It really doesn't bear thinking about (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by UltraNurd on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 03:59:55 PM EST
(put-together-the-username@and-the-domain-name) http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nward/nurd.php

For one thing, the process takes months, maybe even a year, to get results. For another, there are cold, heavy, metal things in your pants. Also, I would assume that for it to work properly, you'd need to wear boxers, for the freedom of movement, which some men wouldn't like. Finally, why am I still talking about this?

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"Your Mint Mountain Dew idea is hideous and wrong."
-Hide The Hamster
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shit man (3.50 / 2) (#8)
by llimllib on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 04:01:48 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

you do know a lot about the process

Peace.
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Think about it... (5.00 / 2) (#9)
by UltraNurd on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 04:22:54 PM EST
(put-together-the-username@and-the-domain-name) http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nward/nurd.php

If your dad got a book entitled The Male Body: An Owner's Manual, what sections would you read first? I definitely wish I could forget what I read, but since I can't, I might as well share some pertinent information to the discussion. :o\

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"Your Mint Mountain Dew idea is hideous and wrong."
-Hide The Hamster
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*** ATTENTION *** (4.00 / 4) (#1)
by Tex Bigballs on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 03:44:04 PM EST
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I have begun sticking carrots in my ass in preparation of my transition into a proud gay homosexual.

Unfortunately, now I am left with dozens of used carrots. It would seem like a waste to throw them all away when there are little kids starving Africa and so on.

If anyone wants them please let me know, just pay postage. Don't worry I washed them all off.

Send them to Bayou or yousef! [nt] (5.00 / 3) (#12)
by StormShadow on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 04:31:24 PM EST
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Talk to Merry about the carrots (5.00 / 2) (#10)
by UltraNurd on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 04:28:09 PM EST
(put-together-the-username@and-the-domain-name) http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~nward/nurd.php

He's into that sort of thing. And don't even get me started on the Pointy Hat Trick.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, read this, and then your memories of The Lord of the Rings will be besmirched forever.

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"Your Mint Mountain Dew idea is hideous and wrong."
-Hide The Hamster
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can you send them to zeufii? (3.66 / 3) (#3)
by llimllib on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 03:53:27 PM EST
(llimllib at f2o .. org)

I think he needs them.

Peace.
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