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By llimllib
Thu Apr 17th, 2003 at 12:53:27 PM EST

llimllib's Diary

Does anybody believe that there should there be a single age of consent?


In the underage voting article, I got into a discussion about age of consent. The question is this: Should all activities requiring consent have a single age of consent? I don't think so, and caught low ratings from several different people for saying it. Now, I don't really care about the ratings, but do a lot of people really disagree with me?

Imagine that you are a parent with a lot of kids, say, 12. With so many kids, you feel that standards are very important, so you give each kid a book telling them what they're allowed to do and when. In this book, you tell your children at what age you'll allow them to view pornography, have sex, get married, own guns, smoke cigarettes, etc. Let's say that, at first, you set them all to 18. After your first 2 children get past 18, you sit back and reflect.

You caught both children with pornography before they turned 18. This didn't seem to harm them, and on reflection, you don't see why they should have had to wait that long. Also, one of the two got really drunk last night (he's 19), and decided to drive home. He got into an accident. Thus, your opinion becomes that, probably, you should let the rest of your children see pornography at age 16, but that they shouldn't be allowed to drink until they're 20.

In this example, if there is required to be a single age of consent, you cannot function well as a parent; you must choose between allowing your children the freedom they deserve and protecting them from something proven to be harmful. This is why I feel that there should not be a requirement of a single age of consent - it prevents you from doing possibly beneficial things but it brings you no benefit.

Am I wrong here?

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There should be...
o A single age of consent 0%
o Various ages of consent 27%
o A law letting me do whatever the hell I want to 54%
o Free Beer For Me 18%

Votes: 11
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And now, for something completely different | 2 comments (2 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
Oh (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by bobpence on Thu Apr 17th, 2003 at 02:23:10 PM EST
(moc.liamg@ecnep.bob)

I though at first you meant that Ohio should have the same age of consent for sex as Wisconsin. I see you are talking about (and against) the idea that there should be one age where all the magic happens. Of course there shouldn't. There's something to be said about looking forward to increasing freedom throughout the mid teens to early twenties. Your ideological opponents are probably a bunch of 16-year-olds who were just tossed out of an 'R'-rated flick. Or they may be like a kid I once knew: His line when asked his age was, "I'm 16 [lowers volume] in 21 months."

AgeOfConsent.com is a fun site. I'm actually relatively impressed with my home state's two-stage guidelines. In Pennsylvania it is legal for a fairly young teen, 14, to have sex with someone no more than four years older, but she must be 16 to legally consent where there is more of an age difference. Which is a good thing, since most teen pregnancies seem to involve much older R. Kelly-types going after waaay too young girls, and this leaves it open to prosecute them for statutory.

A couple years ago Pennsy stopped outlawing homosexuality, which is cool of us. It was later discovered that, unfortunately for a cow in Lancaster, the repealed laws meant there were no remaining prohibitions on bestiality. Also on the negative side, a few years ago the legislature overwhelming voted for a change in the marriage law to specify opposite-sex couples only. By my reading the law as it stood would have allowed gay marriage, which is good because it means that gays stay home weekends and work on DIY projects, therefore buying more home improvement goods and boosting the economy.
"Interesting. No wait, the other thing: tedious." - Bender

Try to keep this short (none / 0) (#1)
by wiremind on Thu Apr 17th, 2003 at 01:31:27 PM EST
(x8_crash_8 (AT) yahoo.com) currently down, moving server --- bignerd.net

I Personally feel that the ages for most activities is quite wrong.
Activities that should be reconsidered to me:
Voting
Drinking
Specific Drugs
Smoking
getting married
seeing pornography
Owning weapons

They are all pretty messed up.
Plus if you try to think about 'freedom of choice' and the freedom to do what you want, when you want, in the privacy of your home, it all gets prety messy.

It all kinda frustrates me, cuz i know nothing will be done about it, now , later, or maybe even ever.
Kyle


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